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16 comments:
"Seven months' jail for a kiss and a lick"?
Lick? This is not something to
make light of. So what if it
had been a girl involved and
penetration?
"Seven months' jail for a poke"?
What is wrong with you?
.....
a lick and penetration are different things, dear anon.
"a lick and penetration are different things, dear anon."
That is not the point.
What is it with some of the people
here?
Need I insult you by
having to put it in a context
closer to you?
What if this was not sex but
maid abuse. What if the employer
of a maid made her kiss and
lick the employer's excrement?
Or let's try closer. Let's say
your boss (of a gender you don't
source your sex partners from
and just to make sure you get it,
very very unattractive) made you
lick his/her genitals. Your
colleague mentions his/her jailtime
was excessive since it was only a kiss and a lick.
So what you went through was a kiss
and a lick. Not as bad as penetration. "Big deal" is implied.
I have to hit home for you to get it?
Actually, I don't know why this article is in this blog in the first place.
This is clearly a hetero problem and not something we gays have to sort out.
Actually I was simply referring to your statements
"So what if it
had been a girl involved and
penetration?
"Seven months' jail for a poke"? "
when I made that comment. There wasn't any kind of value judgement.
The fact is, there was *no* girl involved and there was *no* penetration.
You can't just change the facts from A to B, and say 'oh, because someone reacted this way to A, he will react in the same way to B'.
May I further add that the word "lick" was the actual word used (at least I am assuming so, based on the quotation marks used). So the ones making light of the matter are the ones in court.
If you're going to cry foul about the matter, at least go after the correct people.
"May I further add that the word "lick" was the actual word used (at least I am assuming so, based on the quotation marks used). So the ones making light of the matter are the ones in court.
If you're going to cry foul about the matter, at least go after the correct people."
You really need everything
spelled out for you don't you?
If the case had been about maid
abuse - making a maid lick
her employer's excrement - the
word "lick" would still have to
be employed by the court.
The tone used is totally
matter of fact.
***Denotation***
When commenting that the sentence
meted out was too harsh with
"seven months for a lick", it
is making light of the act and
offensive.
***Connotation***
For heaven's sake stop insulting yourself in full view of everyone reading this blog.
"You can't just change the facts from A to B, and say 'oh, because someone reacted this way to A, he will react in the same way to B'."
What you really need is some
practice at seeing something
and then imagine yourself
being on the receiving end.
Or better, really being on the
receiving end. Have someone
force you to lick his genitals
and then have someone say
that your tormentor to too
severely punished "for a lick".
To Anon 03 March, 2009 20:49
"You can't just change the facts from A to B, and say 'oh, because someone reacted this way to A, he will react in the same way to B'."
It's called "emphathy".
It's called imagining
being in someone else's shoes.
You must be very young
not to have learned this by
now.
Would it have been a crime if he had made him kiss and lick his excrement? Just curious if anyone knows.
Why do I have the feeling that the first Anon never even understood what I wrote? And jumped to comment?
Why do I have the feeling that his comments are more the voice of personal demons than considered thought?
To YB:
I am the first anon. I understood
and have no problems with
your article. It's the title
I have a problems with.
Imagine the five year old
to be someone dear to you.
And havingto listen to "seven months' jail for a kiss and a lick"
"Would it have been a crime if he had made him kiss and lick his excrement? Just curious if anyone knows."
Also curious to know:
would it have been offensive
to describe the maid's experience
as "a kiss and a lick" period.
So basically
Court uses "lick" = "matter of fact"
YB uses "lick" = "it
is making light of the act and
offensive." ?
"Seven months' jail for a kiss and a lick" is a factual statement. You are reading too much into it.
All your 'what if's are just tired variations of the slippery slope argument. My reply is that if one of these scenarios were to occur, the judge would take everything into consideration before issuing a sentence.
The judge did mention there were no factually similar cases right? I suppose she also couldn't see any link between this and a girl getting penetrated.
Haha, I had the same feeling too. I think he just read the title, went into a moralistic spasm, and banged out a response.
Looks like homophobia paranoia to me.
As for Anon of 3 Mar 13.07, I wonder what he means when he says "clearly a hetero" problem. Whether a problem involves a young girl or a young boy, it is everybody's problem.
>> It's called "emphathy".
It's called imagining
being in someone else's shoes.
My issue is with the inconsistency of the original poster's arguments. It has nothing to do with empathy, in its standard definition or yours.
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